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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Here in the UK, heading to France in October. Survival isn't an issue presently, but considering all the signs and reading your piece... dark times ahead as we venture into the Underworld. Aside from practical advice and community support, I feel we need to treat this mythologically. Its metaphors are astounding and the Greeks certainly had a handle on it. But where is Ray Harryhausen when you need him?

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laughlyn (johan eddebo)'s avatar

Good point. John Steppling's work is quite relevant in that respect, check out john-steppling.com.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Thanks for the tip. At first look, I'm already sold.

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laughlyn (johan eddebo)'s avatar

Tverberg is good. Coherent and careful thinker. Richard Heinberg's work is worth having a look at for a more accessible overview though.

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Lance Laffin's avatar

I'll check him out.

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Stegiel's avatar

The question is what will the European masses tolerate when hungry and cold? Can governments retain power?

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laughlyn (johan eddebo)'s avatar

That's indeed an important question. I'm not betting on it. I think we're going to see massive political upheaval in the years ahead.

Don't think I linked this:

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Belgium-PM-Next-5-10-Winters-Will-Be-Difficult-As-Energy-Crisis-Persists.html

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Stegiel's avatar

The flip side is many vaccinated and Germany is going full tilt DDR. My bet is the Eurocrats are aiming for population replacement. Let the Europeans starve and freeze and propaganda and force will maintain order.

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Richard Seager's avatar

If they replace current Europeans with Africans then they themselves will stand out like a sore thumb, at least for a few generations and their racism might make it several generations. I'm not sure how they've managed to justify that one.

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