Isn't this just the logical progression of western political structure into its final form of socialist Empire? By socialist here, I mean nothing more than the eclipsing of the individual for the purposes of the State, and State can mean whatever you want. If you take the basic western socialist assumptions that began in Prussia, this would to me be where you end up. It seems to be an issue that is inherent in western European culture, as it crops up time and time again (especially on the continent), as if there is an internal tendency to send things this way.
Even the criticism of it presumes its importance and shares its assumptions. The whole western idea of propaganda has within it an assumption that people can be 'possessed' by someone else's (or the system's) will. This is quite a strange assumption that is based way back deep in religious western thought, and not a universal way of looking at the world (an Ancient Greek would laugh at this as a ridiculous abstraction).
Ellul to me is the only western thinker to try and get out of this loop, and argued that propaganda is made by and for the urban dislocated mass, only works on them, and they only have themselves to blame for it. It is a necessary requirement of the conditions, and no one is necessarily 'willing' it. If you want it gone change the conditions, namely get out of the urban mass, and not just physically, mentally too.
Money can’t buy me love... and as God is love, money can’t buy me God either. And as God and love are the underlying conditions of real meaningful happiness, in the secular theology of the utilitarian elite, happiness must be commodified as a purchasable entity without meaning or value, a mere artifice of attention to avoid being human, a shallow grave to lie down our corpse for others to feast.
Mar 8, 2023·edited Mar 8, 2023Liked by laughlyn (johan eddebo)
Thanks for quoting Threedog on the lone gunman theory regarding Nordstream. Yeah, well, that’s what they’re going with. Yeah it was predictable. yeah I predicted it. Some “rogue Ukrainians, or pro-Ukrainians” did it. This is the first known LEAD! Hahahahahaahhahahahahahaha
“ Intelligence Suggests Pro-Ukrainian Group Sabotaged Pipelines, U.S. Officials Say
New intelligence reporting amounts to the first significant known lead about who was responsible for the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines that carried natural gas from Russia to Europe.”
“ Published March 7, 2023
Updated March 8, 2023, 12:31 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON — New intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year, a step toward determining responsibility for an act of sabotage that has confounded investigators on both sides of the Atlantic for months.
U.S. officials said that they had no evidence President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine or his top lieutenants were involved in the operation, or that the perpetrators were acting at the direction of any Ukrainian government officials.”
Isn't this just the logical progression of western political structure into its final form of socialist Empire? By socialist here, I mean nothing more than the eclipsing of the individual for the purposes of the State, and State can mean whatever you want. If you take the basic western socialist assumptions that began in Prussia, this would to me be where you end up. It seems to be an issue that is inherent in western European culture, as it crops up time and time again (especially on the continent), as if there is an internal tendency to send things this way.
Even the criticism of it presumes its importance and shares its assumptions. The whole western idea of propaganda has within it an assumption that people can be 'possessed' by someone else's (or the system's) will. This is quite a strange assumption that is based way back deep in religious western thought, and not a universal way of looking at the world (an Ancient Greek would laugh at this as a ridiculous abstraction).
Ellul to me is the only western thinker to try and get out of this loop, and argued that propaganda is made by and for the urban dislocated mass, only works on them, and they only have themselves to blame for it. It is a necessary requirement of the conditions, and no one is necessarily 'willing' it. If you want it gone change the conditions, namely get out of the urban mass, and not just physically, mentally too.
Money can’t buy me love... and as God is love, money can’t buy me God either. And as God and love are the underlying conditions of real meaningful happiness, in the secular theology of the utilitarian elite, happiness must be commodified as a purchasable entity without meaning or value, a mere artifice of attention to avoid being human, a shallow grave to lie down our corpse for others to feast.
Thanks for quoting Threedog on the lone gunman theory regarding Nordstream. Yeah, well, that’s what they’re going with. Yeah it was predictable. yeah I predicted it. Some “rogue Ukrainians, or pro-Ukrainians” did it. This is the first known LEAD! Hahahahahaahhahahahahahaha
“ Intelligence Suggests Pro-Ukrainian Group Sabotaged Pipelines, U.S. Officials Say
New intelligence reporting amounts to the first significant known lead about who was responsible for the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines that carried natural gas from Russia to Europe.”
“ Published March 7, 2023
Updated March 8, 2023, 12:31 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON — New intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year, a step toward determining responsibility for an act of sabotage that has confounded investigators on both sides of the Atlantic for months.
U.S. officials said that they had no evidence President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine or his top lieutenants were involved in the operation, or that the perpetrators were acting at the direction of any Ukrainian government officials.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/us/politics/nord-stream-pipeline-sabotage-ukraine.html