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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Yes, we benefit to see myths as past explanations of processes of society. Same with true science, where past beliefs are acknowledged in order to understand how we got this far. Too bad capitalism turned it into a pyramid scheme lol.

Oh and language is indeed a big factor. But it's becoming less so as it was in the past. I guess you could say we are at the phase where the tower of Babel fell... Why? Because there was no longer "one" language of the empire.

"I believe humanity's foray into fiction began with the breakdown of the bicameral mind, and the insertion of meaningless symbols in between the subject and the seer. In short, back when people used pictographic alphabets, we were limited to discussing things we could actually see in the real world. The invention of phonemic alphabets like this one, which are comprised not of representative pictures but of meaningless letters, provides the opportunity to invent an endless stream of non-sense, the greatest of these being spelled with just a single capital letter."

Alphabet vs the goddess lecture by Leonard Shlain

https://robc137.substack.com/p/alphabet-vs-the-goddess

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Tycaee's avatar

For someone like me, who I fear is hopelessly consumed by this process, it is difficult to understand much from this essay. What makes "Planting trees is good for the environment." a myth? It seems to me to be a succient part of a much broader possible ideal, where we might have space to eventually describe deep ecology or somesuch. We could furthermore admit that, "Ecological stability in the oceans is critical for life on earth." without invalidating the first so-called myth. Anyway, it seems to me a similar pattern to chirping, "Even the disciples did not understand who Jesus was." when indeed one might wish rather to discuss the whole gospel of Mark. The context-free bit does not imply the absence of a coherent (or at least more coherent) whole.

Is the point that our modern ability to engage in such tapestarial myths as in ancient times is lacking, and that we rather operate _only_ on the level of 'one liners' such as "Electric cars are good."?

I understand what the problem of being unaware that myth is myth. I guess I just can't wrap my head around what a modern "myth" really might look like. The examples I've used seem to me better described as unqualified assertions, though perhaps this is how my modern mind can understand a myth? I contend that "Electric cars are good with respect to <values and assumptions>." would be my preferred starting point, but myths are perhaps by nature unqualified. 'The centurion said "Truly this man was the son of God."' does not need qualification, given the surrounding interpretive framework that traditional culture would provide?

Summarily, I'm confused and requesting pedagogy.

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